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Defining Surrealism [REPOST]      Group: alt.surrealism
... My definition of surrealism is based on the idea that people have already
had "surreal" experiences, they just don't know it yet. I point at the
experiences -- see? That's surrealism. I think ...

 

for xister: why surrealism is not a soft drink but dada is      Group: alt.surrealism
... All I'm doing is changing the meaning of the 'surrealism' meatnoise and using other
compatible meatnoises to explain to you what the new 'surrealism' meatnoise means...
and it's not altogether different from *your* meatnoise, either. ...

 

Surrealism - a phase ?      Group: rec.arts.fine
... source as above, Bataille tried to redefine surrealism as: -- "It seems very clear
and very distinct to me that the quest for primitive culture represents the principal,
most decisive and vital, aspect of the meaning of surrealism, if not ...

 

trigger -- a response to elag      Group: alt.surrealism
... Etc.... but not always. it would seem that even Breton's definition of Surrealism
is not as rigid as yours. ... I use it as I desire... the point is just that: surrealists
are "still with us." surrealism has current context and meaning. ...

 

Postmodernism: I need your help...      Group: alt.christnet.theology
... meaning (cf Surrealism in which meaning is deliberately absent.) The attribution
is wrong. I wrote those comparisons. ... How about: Eclecticism: In which there is no
absolute meaning (cf Surrealism: In which there is absolutley no meaning)? ...

 

STAINS      Group: alt.surrealism
... alternative form of knowledge." I think some people (ie. you) have to recognize
that their definition of surrealism is but one of many approaches. If
surrealism is about letting go of conscious impulses ...

 

Surrealism: A Clarification.      Group: rec.arts.fine
... This paragraph seems to imply a level of meaning that seems to refute your earlier
statement that authentic surrealism carries no meaning outside of itself... The
image itself is the meaning... The viewer needs nothing more to process. ...

 

a short response to Talysman's Bullshit      Group: alt.surrealism
... what, exactly, do surrealists do that is not art? you see, Brandon, you are not
only insisting on a definition of surrealism that is *rigid*, but also you claim
this definition is *objective*, that there is a physical test for surrealism. ...

 

question      Group: alt.surrealism
... surrealist. One of the things this newsgroup -- and my research into
surrealism elsewhere -- has taught me is that definition of "surrealism"
varies from person to person, book to book. Even Breton ...

 

Wholeflaffer clones invade West Coast      Group: alt.syntax.tactical
... Now, it appears that your "challenge" was not surreal and should not have been
crossposted from alt.surrealism claiming that you have some working linguistic
definition of surrealism by which others on the Usenet should post. ...

 

Why isn't furry in art gallaries?      Group: alt.fan.furry
... Now does the vixen truely embody the absolute definition of surrealism, is
it a representation of the subconscience to produce a piece of the fantastic?
You bet it is, the vixen is ripe with Fruedian symbolism. ...

 

Trying to Define Surrealism.      Group: alt.society.revolution
... herself as the "nostalgic surrealist." She was rejected (with not a glance at her
art) because according to some surrealism can't be nostalgic (though others would
say it can be nothing else.) One possible definition of surrealism might be ...

 

A Genuine Response (was Re: A Genuine Question)      Group: alt.surrealism
Then why would Breton's definition of surrealism specifially say it's
based on PA if it was little more than a distraction? Why would Freud
suggest that the Oedipal complex is about wanting to ...

 

Are movies moving closer to surrealism?      Group: rec.arts.movies.current-films
1) I don't agree with your definition of "Surrealist", as you're divorcing it entirely
from it's historic origins and meaning. (For example, what specifically do you
think is Surrealist about "Memento"?) Yeah, you're right. ...

 

alt.surrealism in need of slack transfusion!      Group: alt.slack
... kicks. Well, FORGET IT. A handful of posts, mostly "poetry" and mannered
pronouncements on the meaning of surrealism (eh?) from esthetic poseurs
not fit to hold Breton's colostomy bag. Alt.slack ...

 

Surrealism      Group: alt.movies.david-lynch
... So, if this is right (and I'm sure in some cases it is), then there is no deeper
meaning for the surrealist stuff. And therefore the Red Room scenes of Twin Peaks
wouldn't be any more complex than what Eraserhead is. ...

 

A Few Surrealist Poems from a Few Surrealist Writers - 4      Group: alt.arts.poetry.comments
... Because the number of possible combinations of words and of sounds (and
in Surrealism, of meaning) are each infinite, the number of categories
of possible cleverness in poultry is also infinite. ...

 

Surrealism vs Cartoonish Mainstream      Group: alt.tv.simpsons
... What I meant to say is, that there is an intelligent kind of absurdity and of visual
surrealism, namely the kind of surrealism which has a deeper meaning and which
doesn´t destroy reality and characters but "extends" them. ...

 

What does Artaud mean?      Group: alt.slack
agreed he was a mental case, and it is pretty fruitless to find meaning in surrealism
but it is almost as if you don't care if there was a possible meaning or not. i
skimmed the words, you seemed to skim the meaning of them in your mind. ...

 

The Nik Maack Conundrum.      Group: alt.surrealism
... others. We can agree what the definition of RED is. We cannot agree
on the definition of surrealism or nihilism or Christianity. These words
are more vague, more nebulous, than other words. I ...

 

I Need an Expert Techno Artist- will Pay$$      Group: alt.music.makers.electronic
... them, unless you had that pretentious "ive studied art for 90,000 years and know
the creator of every painting by heart" knowledge, would be absolutely impossible
(im full aware that there is some definition to surrealism, but its crap). ...

 

How to draw surrealism...      Group: rec.arts.fine
... Its surreal because its unreal. Notice that I haven't referred to the meaning of
an artwork or how the viewer is supposed to interpret it. ... Each sounded completely
plausible each contradicted the other. Meaning is important in one respect . ...

 

Is Nik a product of mis-definitions?      Group: alt.surrealism
... heard of him?). The entire debate of the definition of surrealism is
divided into two parties: those who know, and those who don't. The ones
"who don't" make up there own definitions. They are ...

 

several questions and then, several answers      Group: alt.surrealism
... newsgroups don't get full-up. why not allow people to speak? has the meaning of
'surrealism' been subverted, misunderstood, corrupted? i'm sure it has. does that
mean a post that conforms to the 'wrong' idea of surrealism is not valid? ...

 

like rolling rollenstein      Group: rec.music.dylan
Wow ... would anyone care to analyze THAT? It gives a whole other meaning to surrealism.
Anybody have a tape of this? -- JMF http://home.att.net/~Jefandmari234/FoggyRuins.
html John Howells wrote in message ... Okay, one more and I'll stop. ...

 

Marek / what the swat team did on wednesday      Group: rec.arts.poems
... have a train of thought, marek will offer it a pedantic ditch. by its own
definition surrealism cannot be achieved by lengthy recipes. it must happen
automatically, allowing your brain to act as a blender. ...

 

Gravity's Rainbow & Excess & Meaning & Character Flaws      Group: rec.arts.books
... burst of war, crying, 'Money be damned, the very life of [insert name of Nation]
is at stake,' but meaning, most likely ... Another influence in 'Under The Rose,' too
recent for me then to abuse to the extent I have done since, is Surrealism... ...

 

Dali's position. : Surrealism FAQ Version 1.1      Group: alt.surrealism
... Breton is dead, during his life he became the center around which the rough definition
of surrealism clustered. At this time many artists use the term surrealist to define
themselves, many critics use the word to define certain works. ...

 

Pumpkin Pie Cat Coincidence      Group: alt.surrealism
... sitting down to write a story and discovering something about your world or yourself
in the process also strikes me, personally, as a spiritual adventure, similar to
going into the world looking for meaning. The surrealist movement seems ...

 

Irréversible, Hulk, dvdbeaver      Group: alt.tv.twin-peaks
... Yet you're very quick to judge it. Yes I am, because since then I've seen quite
a many Hitchcock films that really need some kind of jackass interpretation to
gain meaning. < And didn't surrealism develop *from* dadaism? ...

 

Surrealism in Music...      Group: alt.surrealism
... But then almost anything can become Surrealism. I would like a closer definition
before painting became a complete abstraction, as it was happening parallel to
Surrealism via the Constructivist and Suprematists, etc. ...

 

aaa      Group: alt.test
... newsgroups don't get full-up. why not allow people to speak? has the meaning of
'surrealism' been subverted, misunderstood, corrupted? i'm sure it has. does that
mean a post that conforms to the 'wrong' idea of surrealism is not valid? ...

 

Surrealism vs Cartoonish Mainstream [re-post]      Group: alt.tv.simpsons
... What I meant to say is, that there is an intelligent kind of absurdity and of visual
surrealism, namely the kind of surrealism which has a deeper meaning and which
doesn´t destroy reality and characters but "extends" them. ...

 

various comments on gvw's posts to alt.surrealism      Group: rec.arts.prose
... dale.houst...@gte.net> Newsgroups: alt.surrealism,rec.arts.prose Date: Saturday,
April 10, 1999 9:35 PM Subject: Re: various comments on gvw's posts to alt.surrealism
I do not ... i asked you for meaning; you denied that any meaning exists. ...

 

Project Suggestions; was 'Re: Dreams and Surrealism'      Group: misc.creativity
Got any recipes to share? Like, the techniques -- what is the isolation
technique? Isolation meaning there were members unknown to each other
in the same project. To be successful at certain problem ...

 

Meaning in art      Group: rec.arts.fine
... But while modernism discarded literary subjects, it became very heavy with theory
(another outside source of meaning). One can't understand Surrealism without knowing
it was meant to express images and ideas from the subconscious mind, and ...

 

A Few More Surrealist Poems - 3      Group: alt.arts.poetry.comments
... That instant American meaning is prolly quite different from the instant French
meaning with its proximity to Holland and Spain, not to mention its own occasional
windmills. ... Surrealism is not an aesthetic style. ...

 

Meaning of Jazz: (formerly David Murray)      Group: rec.music.bluenote
... "Surrealism" and release of controls on the repressed appears to be heading
for...."The Unconscious". Of course, this is an entirely instinctive response. ... Loads
of "others". Your hints about surrealism suggested "The Unconscious" to me. ...

 

the limits of desire perhaps evolving into the limits of art      Group: alt.surrealism
... Society holds up the circle and says "THIS IS A CIRCLE AND IT IS OF MEANING."
The surrealist denies the meaning of the circle. ... The surrealist points at other
shapes and says, "Why aren't these shapes of meaning? ...

 

"Surrealist" "Fascism"      Group: alt.pouting.sandwich
Although it might come as a surprise to some in alt.surrealism, the word "fascist"
does have a fairly well defined meaning and it isn't simply "oppression" (which
in this group seems to include such things as Dale's mother telling him it's ...

 

A slew of questions about "The Bartered Bride"      Group: rec.music.opera
... any help with a "meaning". Being a Surrealist work there probably is
not any "meaning" except your own. Just my view. But you might possibly
be aided in forming your view by seeing it visually. ...

 

Please translate "Le Marteau sans Maitre"      Group: rec.music.classical.recordings
... and what Char's line suggests is straightforward enough, but we can't avoid noticing
the literal meaning at the same time and imagining those two poor eyes in a scene
like something out of The Andalusian Dog or a surrealist painting. ...

 

We Are Winning (Furor over DETRITUS ALLEY)      Group: rec.arts.prose
... existed and if you (I know this is absurd, but surrealism can embrace the absurd)
you barrett/brandon/dale were involved (let's say as water boys) and the repressive
forces (who must by definition oppose our imaginery surrealism) wanted to ...

 

Surrealism: A Clarification.      Group: rec.arts.fine
while i certainly haven't read all the available texts, and i have no knowledge
of who you've read, i _can_ say that i've found precious little surrealist theory
which focuses on the "meaning of subject matter" (especitally if you are ...

 

You are what you read?      Group: rec.arts.poems
... an intention, and a construction is by definition a logical thing. Without logic
one cannot structure anything. The logic might be an unusual form of logic, but
it's logic nevertheless. The two major 'schools' of surrealism both rejected ...

 

More revision ...      Group: alt.teens.poetry.and.stuff
... Surrealism emphasised the unconscious in a way like no other, but not in a Freudian
sense (which would try to impose a structure or meaning to the results) but in a
revolutionary sense. A computer could produce such revolutionary texts. ...

 

Meaning and Troll (was: DEATH)      Group: alt.syntax.tactical
... metatrolls. and the fish are still biting. In my opinion, it makes little
sense to ask the question "are Andrea Chen's posts to alt.surrealism trolls?"
when engaged in an analysis of their meaning. We ...

 

Surrealism      Group: alt.surrealism
... but the idea that dreams ARE reality (and that portion of the greater reality that
has been censored and cordoned off from most people's grasp) is made clear in most
surrealist texts, so - in terms of a surrealist definition of realism I ...

 

Desolation Row      Group: rec.music.dylan
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:44:34 GMT From: WScott2805 <wscott2...@AOL.COM> Subject:
Re: Desolation row I really doubt the song has any real meaning; just more of that
surrealism that Bob's so great at. So true - Bob is great at surrealism. ...

 

Quotes from Nicolas Calas      Group: alt.surrealism
The following quotes of Greek Surrealist Nicolas Calas are from "The Meaning of
Surrealism: An Interview with Nicolas Calas" in New Directions in Prose and Poetry
(1940) "Surrealism is the exact opposite of folklore poetry, which is ...

 

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